Stephen Marche, novelist and culture writer for The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New Yorker, and pretty much everywhere else, joins us to talk about his latest book, The Next Civil War, a thoroughly researched work of speculative nonfiction that takes a deeply divided America and imagines five chilling scenarios that lead to its collapse. Drawing upon sophisticated predictive models and nearly two hundred interviews with experts—military leaders, law enforcement officials, agriculture specialists, environmentalists, war historians, and political scientists—journalist Stephen Marche predicts the terrifying future collapse that so many of us do not want to see unfolding before our eyes. Marche has spoken with soldiers and counter-insurgency experts about what it would take to control the population of the United States, and the battle plans for the next civil war have already been drawn up. And not by novelists. By colonels.

Stephen Marche talks with journalist and author Chris Hedges (The Class) about his new book, The Next Civil War, a relevant and revelatory book that breaks down the looming threats to America.

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Stephen Marche: The Next Civil War